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Re: Garmin Nuvi3790 SG/MY

Postby cruiser » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:19 pm

learnyee wrote:Bro Cruiser,
Thanks for agreeing with me on some of the points.



U R welcome brudder learnyee, for my current use on the 1490TV does share your concerns with the valid suggestioins you proposed. I will pick up my 3790 (already purchased by fellow MFM'er) once I'm over there this summer. :thumbsup:

It is indeed :nutz: amazing :ko: to note as well at how the "mindset" is practised at the R&D within Garmin's workshop arena.... while other players in this field are far more advanced in the minor but yet, significant features that sets Garmin somewhat miles behind!! :frus:

I will soon put to the test an extra map routing with the Galaxy Tab through the 3G made available but only on our country's network roads since the Internet subscription is limited only to our region. Upon switching the SIM card to another region, like say SGP or MY, I'm curious which default maps will show up?
Have you any idea on this?
For Singapore I believe it will be that coming from SLA... unless Papago, MFM or MSM is now in the monopoly on the regional mapping scene altogether? :-k
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Re: Garmin Nuvi3790 SG/MY

Postby silverbeauty » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:31 pm

learnyee wrote:Just recently got this unit. Been using it for a few days (I had been using eTrex and MobileXT for navigation for years), there are a few improvements Garmin can considering make into the next firmware:
1. 1 second track log recording.
IMHO this will not happen with Nuvi as it is designed for in car navigation and not for tracking. They have a handheld range just for that application. The 1 sec tracklog was never released for the general public and was meant for beta engineering study :-'
2. Is there a way I can view the saved track log?
Track log has to be enabled so it can be view on main screen. MainMenu - Tools - Settings - Navigation - Automobile - TripLog - Show on Map - Select Enable
3. Enable to search ONLY favorites (waypoint from mapsource) more easier.
MainMenu - WhereTo - Favourites - All Favourites - Touch the "3-line box" on top left hand corner of screen - Spell - Enter Name ... Nuvi will search only Favourites
4. During navigation, make sure the vehicle does not "stick" to the road (eTrex can disable this).
IMHO this will not happen, as mentioned in paragraph 1, this is a feature for handhelds for tracking when you do not want it to stick to road. Nuvi is not meant for tracking. Furthermore in navigation, you do not want the car to drift off road which will confuse user
5. Disable the auto zoom (I really hate that).
Well you are not first one with this request. To me it is not an issue. All you need to do is to tap screen and adj the magnification
6. Enable map display detail to set at least, less, normal, more, most.
MainMenu - Tools - Settings - Navigation - Automobile - MapDetail - Choose More / Normal . Less
7. MFM POI seems missing during 3D navigation, MSM also same. Anyone experienced this?
This has to do with MFM compilor vs Garmin firmware compatibility and also Garmin decision to limit showing of POI during navigation to prevent screen clutter
8. Make the unit more "hands-free" e.g. when the bluetooth connected, the msg prompt will close by itself after 3 seconds without user clicking "OK"
Some users may argue on this point as they want to view that unit has connected to your bluetooth unit
10. Enhance the voice command to enable quick access to "mute" and some other menu item.
Speak Voice Command and then speak MUTE. To unmute, just speak Voice Command and it unmutes
BTW, personally, the speaker, screen and TTS is superb. If you can afford it, it is a good buy. IT also comes with 4GB internal storage.
Agree with you on this :thumbsup:

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Re: Garmin Nuvi3790 SG/MY

Postby ander7724 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:17 pm

silverbeauty wrote:
learnyee wrote:10. Enhance the voice command to enable quick access to "mute" and some other menu item.
Speak Voice Command and then speak MUTE. To unmute, just speak Voice Command and it unmutes
Agree with you on this :thumbsup:


Hmmm... i thought it should be 'voice command' -> 'volume'-> 'Mute' or 'Unmute'

i also agree the voice command is good... :thumbsup:

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Re: Garmin Nuvi3790 SG/MY

Postby learnyee » Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:29 am

cruiser wrote:
I will soon put to the test an extra map routing with the Galaxy Tab through the 3G made available but only on our country's network roads since the Internet subscription is limited only to our region. Upon switching the SIM card to another region, like say SGP or MY, I'm curious which default maps will show up?
Have you any idea on this?
For Singapore I believe it will be that coming from SLA... unless Papago, MFM or MSM is now in the monopoly on the regional mapping scene altogether? :-k


Bro Cruiser, not 100% understand what you try to say but I guess you mean you are going to test some online map on Galaxy tab using 3g in Malaysia. For me, I bought the 3790 because the 3G on the road is sucks and those like google map totally screwed when you need it.

I think MFM is one of the best mapping for this region, not sure on MSM, need to try it out.
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Re: Garmin Nuvi3790 SG/MY

Postby cruiser » Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:30 am

learnyee wrote:Bro Cruiser, not 100% understand what you try to say but I guess you mean you are going to test some online map on Galaxy tab using 3g in Malaysia. For me, I bought the 3790 because the 3G on the road is sucks and those like google map totally screwed when you need it.

I think MFM is one of the best mapping for this region, not sure on MSM, need to try it out.


My bad brudder, I shall simplify hereon. :prayer:

Yes indeed, free maps through 3G dependence with routing, theoretically sucks unless one doesn't mind getting around in circles with rerouting from outdated map updates!!! :lol:

With the active 3G as default through the SIM card subscription, I can access the Google Maps while I'm within my country. This is just to test it out and see how easily accessible and to witness esp. how good is the "reliability" of the free maps, in contrast to the Lifetime Map updates from Nuvi and that of my TomTom daily subscribed updates.

To be honest, I won't be relying my routing through the free mapping for routing witrh the Galaxy Tab... that is bought to serve a whole different purpose while on the road like internetting and VOIP calling as well as random entertainment through browsing News and perhaps a shot at some YouTube clips. :thumbsup: Simply as distraction while cruising behind the wheel of course.... :mrgreen:

I travel with both Nuvi and TomTom units and would also not rely on free mapping through the Apps made available on the Android Apps.... c'mon, with what has been achieved and still progressing at a higher level on submitted contributions by dedicated mappers, MFM and to a certain degree, by the current MSM community, we know that the maps are far ahead as oppose to Garmin's yearly updates... so, you wont find me using or depending the free mapping used through a tablet or handphone [-X ... real routing needs GPS units for thats what they are made for, right? :mrgreen:
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Re: Garmin Nuvi3790 SG/MY

Postby learnyee » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:57 pm

Bro Cruiser,
totally agree, if the 3G is good, the free map works somehow but it is as not up to date like MFM, if course, 3G give you best effort connection, if it suddenly went dead, there it goes.
BTW, saw your tagline on those Fenix torch, I had a few of it also...ehehehehe
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Re: Garmin Nuvi3790 SG/MY

Postby simseair » Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:58 pm

Finally succumb to the lust and got a 3790 Sg/My set this week. My 205W is aging and I have been considering a new navigation set for some time. I am keen to see how much improvement on the navigation GPS sets since the past 2 years. I did not go for Papago, being more familiar with Garmin.

Finally settled for the 3790 although there was some concern about the incompatibility of the MFM map and that the Autozoom cannot be disabled. But, I took the plunge and am glad to say I was quite happy with the set.

The unit is beautiful, currently the only one on the market that looked and feel like the I Phone. It is slim and has a glass surface. An attraction for smudges and fingerprints for sure. After turning on the unit, the screen is clear and the map is attractively done.

The NT map has undergone a tremendous improvement since the MSM and MFM maps were established. Even the small towns and some kampungs in Malaysia are shown, with road names included. I still wonder why some areas looked remarkably like MFM. I noticed a quarry road near Seremban which was about 70% tracked in MFM. In the NT map, the same 70% tracked road was shown while the remaining 30% was grayed out. Interesting. I am happy that the NT map has so much details now and it is possible to just rely on the map for navigation.

The map is well done, with shades of gray representing the contours of the landscape. When you are driving near hills or mountains, you can see the shapes of the hills and mountains changing as you drive past. Almost 3D effect. Good. I like to zoom back and looked at the landscape while driving. It gives me a helicopter view of the area which is interesting. You can see the blue horizon and the main roads in orange color on a gray background. Nice. When you drive on a road that goes up a hill, you can see the road sloping up the hill on the map. If you zoomed the map back all the way, you will see the earth, like the Google Earth display.

Road names now appear at the area where you are driving, unlike the older Nuvi models where the names do not appear at all. This is a big improvement. Also, the POIs now appear in driving mode, again, unlike the older models.

The map comes with Junction Views and Lane Assist. The JV are interesting. Nice pictures of the junctions. There are over 2000 JV shots, quite a good number. You can select to have a half screen or a full screen for the JV. One nice thing is the night mode. The sky in the JV shots will turn dark at night. The LA is also good. Always indicating how many lanes there are on a stretch of road and which one to use if you need to turn at a junction.

The touch screen is easy to use. The processor is impressive as it is easy to scroll the map. Also, when driving, the map "flows" smoothly unlike the older models when the screen looked jerky while driving. The touch screen is not as impressive as the I Phone, though. Sometimes, the screen does not respond properly. But quite a minor issue. Sometimes the unit will shut down by itself when I am trying out some of the features of the unit. Still some bugs in the software, even though the version is 2.50.

I like the tilt sensor. You can now use the unit in landscape or portrait mode. It is easy to turn the unit either way as the bracket is a ball joint. Another good feature is that the USB power socket is hooked to the bracket instead of the unit. Alighting from a car, you can just unhooked the unit from the bracket instead of having to pull out the USB plug as well.

The GPS reception looked good. I think it is better than my 205W but have not tested it in crowded downtown areas with tall buildings.

There is now a Pedestrian mode. Quite interesting if you want to use the unit for walking. This will be useful when you are overseas and would like to walk around an area.

The simulation mode is now easier to use. You can speed up the simulated drive (up to 500+ km/hr), so you can really see the whole journey. The older units were always a pain to use as the simulation is so slow.

Overall, quite a big improvement, both in terms of the hardware and the map. The screen is quite impressive and attractive. I have not explored the other features - voice command, blue tooth, MP3, etc. I am still a traditionalist - a GPS is for navigating. I do not like the TTS - the classic Kg is translated as Kilogram instead of Kampung. I still do not know how to use the Trip Planner. After planning my whole route, the unit do not follow the complete route but will ask which point in the route that you want to go.

For the map, the FI racetrack at the Johor Causeway is still on the map even tho' it has been demolished a few months back. The map is a big improvement. I still do not know how to use the MFM in the unit. Tried to generate a map without the polygons but the roads just don't show in the unit. Also, I noticed that when I inserted the SD card with the MFM map, the JV does not show, even though I untick the MFM map. My 205W is now just a back-up to view the MFM map.

Overall, pretty happy with the unit. Still not satisfied with Garmin for not being able to turn off the Autozoom feature. It is a nice feature but would like the option to turn off the Autozoom, like the handhelds. Such a simple process but Garmin always think it knows better.
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Re: Garmin Nuvi3790 SG/MY

Postby cruiser » Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:48 pm

That is a good preliminary evaluation brudder Simseair on yr newly acquired 3790. Interesting to note as well on yr appreciation regarding the 3D viewing unlike the 2D/3D we all experience daily on the Nuvi models of earlier. This is real 3D effect as to be understood and again on the response speed of the screentouch if one wishes to adopt as oppose to the option on voice command. I know of no one here by me who has a 3790 as this is not marketed in our country... not yet and not expected either in the foresseable fiuture but it is currently made available in the UK which I will benefit for any support once I purchase the Nu Maps Lifetime European maps.

The other point you raised concerning MFM mapping is perhaps, again having to do with maps created that does not result well with the way NT shows itself anyway, the choice is again left to the user of the region and MFM suffice at the end of the day.... though not for all users I'm sure. :rolleyes: :mrgreen:

Looking forward certainly to read up more on yr next assessment straight from yr experience. :thumbsup:
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Re: Garmin Nuvi3790 SG/MY

Postby silverbeauty » Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:23 am

simseair wrote:snip ... I still do not know how to use the MFM in the unit. Tried to generate a map without the polygons but the roads just don't show in the unit. Also, I noticed that when I inserted the SD card with the MFM map, the JV does not show, even though I untick the MFM map. My 205W is now just a back-up to view the MFM map.




Here is what I did to get MFM maps into my 3790T. You did right to remove polygons when generating the gmapsupp.img. Put the map fiile gmapsupp.img into SD card/map directory and rename it to any name you want ie... MFM110314.img. Make sure that in MainMenu - Tools - myMaps that MFM is selected. Map should show.

For MSM map 5.10NT, You will need to disable Apac-Dem Apacdem ms2.00 ( 3D terrain map ) for the MSM map to show. The 3D terrain overlays prevents the MSM map roads from showing.

JCV should be used ONLY with Garmin NavTeq map enabled, all else disabled.

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Re: Garmin Nuvi3790 SG/MY

Postby simseair » Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:28 pm

Bro SB,

Still no luck. I removed the polygons and even use the default setting during the MFM map generation. I then renamed the file to MFM110314.img. I inserted the SD card into the unit and disabled all the Garmin map files. But still, I do not see the tracks appearing on the screen.


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