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Re: Free Malaysia & Singapore GPS Map: MFM-Garmin 101108

Postby zuree » Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:54 pm

We will have to come out a better scripts to control the download pocedure. As, the last 2 weeks records show, we ONLY have 1271 uniqe IP / Users in a day, and the page view impression GOES up to 4713 pages! It mean, each user are REFRESHing the page 3.7 times! And it also, mean, some users are ABUSING the system![/quote]

den we just hope u can come out script to let us choose which server to download ^^

Waiting for it~[/quote]

Actually, I am working on it. But, need to plan carefully and won't affect the user download experience too much. Coz those irresponsible users keep refreshing the page will make our statistic collection effort useless and it will eventually put mfm to situtation where difficult to get others map format release.

The reason mfm maps is so welcome, simply because it is FREE and being input by soooo many members around the countries. So, when the GPS Navigation software maker want to release their map in this region, mfm is the best partner that they can come across, So, this statistic collection is to prove/show the "welcome" by the public.

Unfortunately, we DO have some users are "Poisoning" our data & effort![/quote]


that means more "FREE" maps format in the future...tomtom,bmw, merz etc :-k :thumbsup: :peace: :prayer:

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Re: Free Malaysia & Singapore GPS Map: MFM-Garmin 101108

Postby ad4rum » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:09 pm

shawchyn wrote:
adrianyujs wrote:
shawchyn wrote:We will have to come out a better scripts to control the download pocedure. As, the last 2 weeks records show, we ONLY have 1271 uniqe IP / Users in a day, and the page view impression GOES up to 4713 pages! It mean, each user are REFRESHing the page 3.7 times! And it also, mean, some users are ABUSING the system!


den we just hope u can come out script to let us choose which server to download ^^

Waiting for it~


Actually, I am working on it. But, need to plan carefully and won't affect the user download experience too much. Coz those irresponsible users keep refreshing the page will make our statistic collection effort useless and it will eventually put mfm to situtation where difficult to get others map format release.

The reason mfm maps is so welcome, simply because it is FREE and being input by soooo many members around the countries. So, when the GPS Navigation software maker want to release their map in this region, mfm is the best partner that they can come across, So, this statistic collection is to prove/show the "welcome" by the public.

Unfortunately, we DO have some users are "Poisoning" our data & effort!

ohh so all this is to collect data 'manually' to show how 'welcome' MFM actually is.
but won't a hit counter do the same job?
I can surf MFM, without downloading anything.
I can also download, without surfing MFM.
I don't think anyone is out to "Poisoning" any data & effort, its just their browsing habits.

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Re: Free Malaysia & Singapore GPS Map: MFM-Garmin 101108

Postby shawchyn » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:26 pm

ad4rum wrote:ohh so all this is to collect data 'manually' to show how 'welcome' MFM actually is.
but won't a hit counter do the same job?
I can surf MFM, without downloading anything.
I can also download, without surfing MFM.
I don't think anyone is out to "Poisoning" any data & effort, its just their browsing habits.


You get me wrong, we DO NOT kept the record for general surfing on the mfm site, We ONLY collect the data for map downloads. That's why you see the "EXTERNAL LINKS" are not allow now and the page for download is not in mfm site, it is link to another page.

The page serve 2 main purposes:
1) Try to load balance the traffic to multiple servers (which currently being abuse by some members)
2) Every time you click or "refresh" the page, it will record the "download". Coz currently, we "trust the good faith" that members will just use the link being generated by the system and use it as it is. Not kept "Refresh" the page to get different links"

Some members advice me not to "shown" the server that assign by the script, but by doing so, the members will really "STOP" there?
Our challenge here is, how can we provide the reasonable fast download experience for members yet the data collection is "clean" and "accurate".
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Re: Free Malaysia & Singapore GPS Map: MFM-Garmin 101108

Postby nazri14 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:42 pm

01. Date / Time : (2010-11-09 / 2030 hrs)
02. Location : Melaka
03. ISP / ISP Package : (Streamyx / 512kbps)
04 Server : File Server
05. Speed of Download : (30 KB/sec)

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Re: Free Malaysia & Singapore GPS Map: MFM-Garmin 101108

Postby -SRV- » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:14 pm

shawchyn wrote:
ad4rum wrote:1) Try to load balance the traffic to multiple servers (which currently being abuse by some members)
2) Every time you click or "refresh" the page, it will record the "download". Coz currently, we "trust the good faith" that members will just use the link being generated by the system and use it as it is. Not kept "Refresh" the page to get different links"


Hmm...then this statistic gathering also may not be accurate. Assuming user don't click refresh at the MFM Garmin Maps Download Page. Just click "EXE" link, it goes to FileServe....download failed. Go back to Download Page again, "EXE" again, FileServe...download failed. Repeat few times. Higher stats already?

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Re: Free Malaysia & Singapore GPS Map: MFM-Garmin 101108

Postby shawchyn » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:09 pm

-SRV- wrote:
shawchyn wrote:
ad4rum wrote:1) Try to load balance the traffic to multiple servers (which currently being abuse by some members)
2) Every time you click or "refresh" the page, it will record the "download". Coz currently, we "trust the good faith" that members will just use the link being generated by the system and use it as it is. Not kept "Refresh" the page to get different links"


Hmm...then this statistic gathering also may not be accurate. Assuming user don't click refresh at the MFM Garmin Maps Download Page. Just click "EXE" link, it goes to FileServe....download failed. Go back to Download Page again, "EXE" again, FileServe...download failed. Repeat few times. Higher stats already?


No one complaint about Fileserv server having issue, for your case, I think the problem is on your side.
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Re: Free Malaysia & Singapore GPS Map: MFM-Garmin 101108

Postby gpsnerd » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:24 pm

after download i check map data, its dated 101107?

is this normal?
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Re: Free Malaysia & Singapore GPS Map: MFM-Garmin 101108

Postby shawchyn » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:27 pm

gpsnerd wrote:after download i check map data, its dated 101107?

is this normal?


yes. coz it is compile on the sunday nite (nov 7) and release on monday (nov 8)
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Re: Free Malaysia & Singapore GPS Map: MFM-Garmin 101108

Postby OngCC » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:43 pm

gpsnerd wrote:after download i check map data, its dated 101107?

is this normal?

It will show 101108 if you create the mapset by Mapsource.
Upload your contribution to MFM drop box if you don't want others to take your contributed tracklogs or POIs.
http://www.malfreemaps.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11630

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Re: Free Malaysia & Singapore GPS Map: MFM-Garmin 101108

Postby Albert_Chong » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:15 pm

OngCC wrote:
gpsnerd wrote:after download i check map data, its dated 101107?

is this normal?

It will show 101108 if you create the mapset by Mapsource.


Is it really important for whether the Map data's date is either 101107 or 101108 ?
few days later, we will get another latest map.


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