Garmin Travel Guide

[silverbeauty]

Just got these in my email -

World Expo Travel Guide in Shanghai - http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/site/s ... ichpoi/004

Homepage - http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/site/sg/cache/offonce/home/richpoi;jsessionid=7E8A20C50808BFBDC2061ECC1A88788D

I downloaded the Expo Guide to use with my Venus China map.
While the Venus maps worked fine in my Mal/SG 1250, the Expo Guide does not!

Please be aware that the Expo Guide only works with a true China GPS.
On mine, it claims I am in the Spanish pavilion when I am standing on the rooftop garden of the Singapore pavilion!

Be warned!

It has nothing to do with the Garmin travel guide as it only piggy back onto an existing Garmin Map of region of interest, in this case the China Map.

It is a known issue that China maps have offset "embedded" thus the discrepancy in POI accuracy.

Localized China GPS unlike globalized units have "offset" correction embedded in their firmware to compensate for this
This is only confined to Nuvis NOT handhelds.

I think newer Garmin Nuvi globalized sets have this embedded but cannot confirm but I do know Taiwan localized Nuvi sets works fine in Mainland China.

[cruxader]

Just got these in my email -

World Expo Travel Guide in Shanghai - http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/site/s ... ichpoi/004

Homepage - http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/site/sg/cache/offonce/home/richpoi;jsessionid=7E8A20C50808BFBDC2061ECC1A88788D

I downloaded the Expo Guide to use with my Venus China map.
While the Venus maps worked fine in my Mal/SG 1250, the Expo Guide does not!

Please be aware that the Expo Guide only works with a true China GPS.
On mine, it claims I am in the Spanish pavilion when I am standing on the rooftop garden of the Singapore pavilion!

Be warned!

It has nothing to do with the Garmin travel guide as it only piggy back onto an existing Garmin Map of region of interest, in this case the China Map.

It is a known issue that China maps have offset "embedded" thus the discrepancy in POI accuracy.

Localized China GPS unlike globalized units have "offset" correction embedded in their firmware to compensate for this
This is only confined to Nuvis NOT handhelds.

I think newer Garmin Nuvi globalized sets have this embedded but cannot confirm but I do know Taiwan localized Nuvi sets works fine in Mainland China.

I do know about the 'China offset', Hence my use of the Venus modified maps for China.

However, please bear in mind that this TravelGuide was posted in a Singapore Garmin website ==> obviously intended for use by Mal/Sing nuvi owners.
I am just highlighting that it is misleading in that context.

If it was posted in the China or Taiwan website (in fact there is an expo2010 guide in the Taiwan site), I would have no problem with the offset requirement.

Can you clarify the last statement?
Do you mean that Handhelds (aka PDA/Smartphones) can handle the offset?

[waypoint]

*ENVY* That you're able to find out on the ground itself! =)

Please be aware that the Expo Guide only works with a true China GPS.
On mine, it claims I am in the Spanish pavilion when I am standing on the rooftop garden of the Singapore pavilion!

Be warned!

[cruxader]

*ENVY* That you're able to find out on the ground itself! =)

Please be aware that the Expo Guide only works with a true China GPS.
On mine, it claims I am in the Spanish pavilion when I am standing on the rooftop garden of the Singapore pavilion!

Be warned!

Hmmm....

After spending 5 full days at the Expo, I am not so sure there is anything to envy!
My feet are in open rebellion!
For once, I am stuck in a hptel where I could not walk down to a foot reflexology shop!

[silverbeauty]

I do know about the 'China offset', Hence my use of the Venus modified maps for China.

However, please bear in mind that this TravelGuide was posted in a Singapore Garmin website ==> obviously intended for use by Mal/Sing nuvi owners.
I am just highlighting that it is misleading in that context.

If it was posted in the China or Taiwan website (in fact there is an expo2010 guide in the Taiwan site), I would have no problem with the offset requirement.

Can you clarify the last statement?
Do you mean that Handhelds (aka PDA/Smartphones) can handle the offset?

I am not in a position to comment on what was posted in Garmin website and what is the actual situation.

I am posting to share what I experience when I travel to China. I, like you found out the hard way that our Global, non-localized China Nuvis does not provide accurate navigational routing. Thus I had to trade in my global Nuvi for a Taiwan Nuvi so I can use it there.

My apologies for not being clearer in my last statement. For GARMIN handheld GPS, as far as I know to date, ALL are not usable for accurate navigation in China. The offset correction is only implemented in Nuvi models.

For GMXT used in PDA/SmartPhone, you need to put an "offset" correction file for it to work.

[cruxader]

I am not in a position to comment on what was posted in Garmin website and what is the actual situation.

I am posting to share what I experience when I travel to China. I, like you found out the hard way that our Global, non-localized China Nuvis does not provide accurate navigational routing. Thus I had to trade in my global Nuvi for a Taiwan Nuvi so I can use it there.

My apologies for not being clearer in my last statement. For GARMIN handheld GPS, as far as I know to date, ALL are not usable for accurate navigation in China. The offset correction is only implemented in Nuvi models.

For GMXT used in PDA/SmartPhone, you need to put an "offset" correction file for it to work.

My comment was targeted at Garmin SG for their inconsiderate posting of a TravelGuide that would not work with their Mal/SG customer's units. Kinda pointless.

Thanks for the clarification on the handheld situation.

As of this year, the appearance of Venus maps (offset correct version of official maps) has made life a lot easier for us global nuvi owners! It was great, except the details at the expo itself was lacking and some of the newest roads (opened in 2010) were kinda missing bits. But it was generally very useful.

[deepak]

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Thanks for the post.....

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[FrancisTLim]

The offset correction is only implemented in Nuvi models.

For GMXT used in PDA/SmartPhone, you need to put an "offset" correction file for it to work.

Hmm.... I don't quite understand the logic of the "offset". If the offset is an open secret and can even be made into an "offset" correction file, then what security purpose does the offset serve? I am sure all the map makers can remove the offset in their maps with one touch of a button (well... not exactly one touch lah).

Does anyone know if this "offset" has something more to it that will actually protect a building from GPS-guided missle?