Postal Codes For Malaysia

[cwyap]

No problem, bro Anthony.

I am now waiting for my despatch clerk to come back with the postcodes directory (this is the most important link to the whole endeavour).

Oh yes, I think using a spreadsheet application to do the keying will be more efficient and faster. Must we use the "|" delimiter or can it be ","? I am using OpenOffice and its delimiters are ",", ";", ":", space & tab. Once that's done, it will be exported as a CSV file (a file which can be opened using any text editor such as Windows Notepad).

I'll prep up a sample for you to go through (most probably I'll add another column - State - for clarity). Once that passes your requirement, I'll check how many can volunteer to do the keying in and I'll scan portions of the directory to be distributed among the volunteers.

[cwyap]

Got the postcodes directory! Darn thing is THICK (about 550 pages of postcodes - each page has 100 postcodes ). That will give us 55,000 entries to key in. Wow....

Anyway, this is the CSV file which softcopy is attached:-
50200,Cangkat Bukit Bintang
50480,Cangkat Damansara
50480,Cangkat Duta
54000,Cangkat Keramat Hujung
50450,Cangkat Kia Peng
50250,Cangkat Perak
50480,Cangkat Persekutuan
50200,Cangkat Raja Chulan
59100,Cangkat Riong
55100,Cangkat Thambi Dollah
50480,Cangkat Tunku

Bro Anthony, will the above format be acceptable to you?

Good also to go through this exercise as some of the road names might not be in MFM so we can actually verify the road names later on. Example:-

Cangkat Persekutuan is labelled as Persekutuan, C (N3 08.332 E101 40.871)

Cangkat Tunku is labelled as Tunku, C (N3 09.589 E101 40.765)

Looks like this postcodes project has just grown double its size as now we will also have to double check the name to ensure standardization. Oh well, that's double the fun.

[exz8]

malacca postkod range from 75xxx - 78xxx...

[antyong (retired)]

Got the postcodes directory! Darn thing is THICK (about 550 pages of postcodes - each page has 100 postcodes ). That will give us 55,000 entries to key in. Wow....

Anyway, this is the CSV file which softcopy is attached:-
50200,Cangkat Bukit Bintang
50480,Cangkat Damansara
50480,Cangkat Duta
54000,Cangkat Keramat Hujung
50450,Cangkat Kia Peng
50250,Cangkat Perak
50480,Cangkat Persekutuan
50200,Cangkat Raja Chulan
59100,Cangkat Riong
55100,Cangkat Thambi Dollah
50480,Cangkat Tunku

Bro Anthony, will the above format be acceptable to you?

Good also to go through this exercise as some of the road names might not be in MFM so we can actually verify the road names later on. Example:-

Cangkat Persekutuan is labelled as Persekutuan, C (N3 08.332 E101 40.871)

Cangkat Tunku is labelled as Tunku, C (N3 09.589 E101 40.765)

Looks like this postcodes project has just grown double its size as now we will also have to double check the name to ensure standardization. Oh well, that's double the fun.

I will change ",C" to "Cangkat". Btw, should it be "Changkat" or "Cangkat"? Our standard is to follow the road sign.

Looking at the example, do you intend to attach post code to roads instead of areas?

[cwyap]

The postcodes directory list "Cangkat" but some of the road signboards "Changkat". Dewan Bahasa & Pustaka defines "Cangkat" as "low hill" and it does not recognise the word "Changkat". Whoever that's ordering those road signs must be very careful and not to screw things up. But then again, Malaysia Boleh ma!

Attaching the postcodes to Taman/Residential sites - no problem. I do expect more work needs to be done as we will have to look at a Taman, find a road name and then check the postcode directory before keying in. But we have a bit of a problem here - I did a quick run through of the directory the day before and found that some Taman/Residential sites have 2 postcodes (serious!), eg. Tmn Cheras Utama - roads beginning with numeral & ending with alphabet (eg. 2/95B) have 56100 as postcode while roads beginning with alphabet & ending with numeral (eg. CU 2) have 56000 as postcode. Very very confusing.

Will it be problematic if we maintain following the way Pos Malaysia does it, i.e. match the postcode to the road itself?

[antyong (retired)]

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Will it be problematic if we maintain following the way Pos Malaysia does it, i.e. match the postcode to the road itself?

Worth a try...

Please submit to me a small area for trials. I will convert and update in into our Garmin map. Then we finetune how we want the postcodes to be displayed and searched

[drsec]

Malaysia post code conventions are totally different with Sg.

In Sg, 1 building 1 code. So you could navigate with postcode, and it could direct you to specific location. For a stretch 10 terrace houses, it will be 10 postcodes for each has a unique postcode.

But in Malaysia, 1 postcode could easily cover > 10 square KM. Attached is Taiping post code 34000 for example. It covers > 20 square KM. Which I don't see the practicality for it.

I think it would information overload if in cooperate into the main map. 1 way I could think of is make a separate postcode map. Optional install like topo map and polygon during installations to cater other individual needs.

I totally agree with you.

The US Zip Code and UK Post Code can identify exact location right down the the house/residence address level and is used for more than just postal addressing. It is also used for route planning and pin point locationing.

The Malaysian Post code only goes down to area or district level. So an address search using post code alone is still too wide. For instance, if I am searching for a particular road in Subang Jaya, there is only one post code 47500 for the whole area covering Wangsa Baiduri, Bandar Sunway, Subang Utama, Subang Jaya, USJ, Subang Permai, Parts of Federal Highway, Seafield Jaya, Taman Industri Ringan Subang, Taman Industri Subang, Subang Mewah, so what is the use of putting in the post code when I already know that the road I'm looking for is in "city" Subang Jaya which is a much narrower search than 47500.

I dont see the practical use of this.

[cwyap]

The Malaysian Post code only goes down to area or district level. So an address search using post code alone is still too wide. For instance, if I am searching for a particular road in Subang Jaya, there is only one post code 47500 for the whole area covering Wangsa Baiduri, Bandar Sunway, Subang Utama, Subang Jaya, USJ, Subang Permai, Parts of Federal Highway, Seafield Jaya, Taman Industri Ringan Subang, Taman Industri Subang, Subang Mewah, so what is the use of putting in the post code when I already know that the road I'm looking for is in "city" Subang Jaya which is a much narrower search than 47500.

Malaysian postcodes extend to individual roads and some to certain "important" buildings. Check out the postcodes directory issued ("sold" is the more exact word) by Pos Malaysia.

Bro drsec, you got a point re focusing on "city". But let's give it a try and see what happens - if users find good use for postcodes embedded in the MFM map, great , if they don't, well, at least we have some fun experimenting & learning.

Bro Anthony, will get you a sample by Monday. The next couple of days are spent spring cleaning during daytime so will do the data entry work at night.

Cheers & Happy New Year.

[cwyap]

Bro Anthony,

Attached is a bigger sample of postcodes for Kuala Lumpur (a mixture of roads, buildings, Taman & govt depts). Please play around with it and let me know if it is workable.

The postcodes directory is an additional tool to help us in providing more coverage for MFM maps; I noticed some of the road names stated in the directory are not listed in MFM map (091228). This is a blessing in disguise as it will provide us with a clear idea of which areas that need to go back to & check them out (not just for KL but other areas as well).

Anyway, please let me have your feedback re the postcodes sample. If workable, great - we proceed. If not, then there is another use for the postcodes directory (see Para 2).

Cheers.

[alyem]

Postcode 46000 for Petaling >
Area >
Petaling Jaya (old Town)
Rumah Panjang Ktm (kaw Pjs)
Seksyen 1-3
Seksyen 18
Seksyen 1a
Seksyen 2c-2d
Seksyen 5-7
Seksyen 9-10
Tmn Dato Harun
Tmn Dato Hormat
Tmn Gasing Indah
Tmn Indah Jaya
Tmn Kanagapuram
Tmn Maju Jaya
Tmn Medan
Tmn Medan Pejasa
Tmn Perangsang Permai
Tmn Petaling
Tmn Petaling Utama
Tmn Sri Manja
Tmn Sri Medan
Tmn Sri Subang
Tmn Subang Indah

Jalan > Jln 1/132-9/132
Jln 1/18b
Jln 1/2-1/26
Jln 1/2a-1/3a
Jln 1/8a
Jln 10/1-10/14
Jln 10/6a-10/14a
Jln 18/1-18/22
Jln 18/1a-18/22a
Jln 18/6a-18/18b
Jln 1a/71a-1a/73b
Jln 2/23-2/40
Jln 21a-21b
Jln 26/2-2d/8d
Jln 2c/2-2c/28
Jln 3/55-3/69
Jln 3/57a-3/69j
Jln 4/4-4/46
Jln 5/1-5/71
Jln 5/2a-5/13j
Jln 6/1-6/31
Jln 6/15a-6/30d
Jln 7/14-7/20
Jln 7a-7d
Jln 9/3 - 9/7
Jln 9/5a-9/5f
Jln Aman
Jln Anak Gasing
Jln Anak Gasing 6/5
Jln Batu 6½
Jln Bukit Badak
Jln Bukit Badak 5/17
Jln Cantek
Jln Cantik 5/13
Jln Carey
Jln Cawan 6/15
Jln Changgai 6/22
Jln Changkat
Jln Chantek 5/13
Jln Chawan
Jln Dispensary
Jln Dua
Jln Empat
Jln Endah
Jln Endah 6/7
Jln Gasing
Jln Jasa (12-28)
Jln Jasa 13a
Jln Jasa 13b
Jln Jasa 27a
Jln Jasa 27b
Jln Kajang
Jln Kawasan Melayu
Jln Kelang Lama
Jln Lapan
Jln Lembah
Jln Lembah 5/2
Jln Lima
Jln Masjid
Jln Masjid 3/69
Jln Medan (1-32)
Jln Medan Pulau
Jln Mewah
Jln Mewah 6/9
Jln Mj (1-9)
Jln Molek
Jln Molek 6/8
Jln Othman
Jln Othman 1/14
Jln Pantai
Jln Pantai 9/7
Jln Pasar
Jln Pasar 1/21
Jln Permai
Jln Permai 6/6
Jln Petaling Utama (1-5)
Jln Puteri 5/9
Jln Puteri 5/9a-5/9f
Jln Putri
Jln Railway
Jln Rida
Jln Rida 3/56
Jln Ru 1-12
Jln Ru 2a-2b
Jln Ru 3a-3b
Jln Ru 6a
Jln Sentosa
Jln Sentosa 3/57
Jln Sm 10
Jln Sm 11
Jln Sm 12
Jln Sm 2
Jln Sm 2a
Jln Sm 2b
Jln Sm 3a
Jln Sm 3b
Jln Sm 5
Jln Sm 6a
Jln Tanjong
Jln Tanjung 5/4
Jln Tanjung 5/4a-5/4h
Jln Teluk
Jln Teluk 5/2a
Jln Teluk 5/2b
Jln Telur
Jln Templer
Jln Timor
Jln Tinggi
Kg Bakti
Kg Gandhi
Kg Hijrah
Kg Ketapang
Kg Lal Singh
Kg Landasan
Kg Manggis
Kg Medan Jaya
Kg Medan Pulau
Kg Medan Tambahan
Kg Penaga
Kg Penaga Jaya Baru
Kg Perangsang Permai
Kg Peta
Kg Petaling Tin
Kg Pinang
Kg Pinang Tunggal
Kg Sentosa Sepakat C
Kg Sg Way Tin
Kg Sri Pinang
Kg Tun Ismail
Lrg 14c
Lrg 15
Lrg 1a/73
Lrg Bukit Badak 5/17a
Lrg Bukit Badak 5/17b
Lrg Bukit Badak 5/17c
Lrg Bukit Badak 5/17d
Lrg Cantek
Lrg Jasa 24a
Lrg Jasa 24b
Lrg Masjid (a-j)
Lrg Pjs 1/2
Lrg Pjs 1/2a
Lrg Pjs 1/2b
Lrg Putri
Lrg Selangor
Lrg Selangor A-b
Lrg Sentosa 3/57a
Lrg Sentosa 3/57b
Lrg Sentosa 3/57c
Lrg Templer
Lrg Timor