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Re: if 1 is not enough

Postby Inggo » Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:21 am

zuree wrote:Bro inggo you can be a Software / Firmware Chief of MFM...hhehe can develope our own GPS software \:D/

actually, this is just a hobby, I do not do deep research in software, keep only incidental i need.
sometimes, when I like - could spend my time for weeks, but when busy or bored its not touched at all..

but to develop some navigation software, you must be deep in advanced logic such as mathematica, algebra,
advance calculation such fourier, laplacian, matrix etc. easy for isometric 2D but for mapping 3D using real renderingwith 3D programming (such as 3D openGL programming in PC),
and its very hard to develops just one person only.. even you r a genius one :ko:
maybe you r not enough have a Ph.D of mathematica to know all of that.. but must to do applicate software about special programming too :mrgreen:

mostly i ve hack the gps software using some machine code (assembler) that i knew..
any Ph.D here?
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Re: if 1 is not enough

Postby silverbeauty » Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:24 am

Inggo wrote:
zuree wrote:Bro inggo you can be a Software / Firmware Chief of MFM...hhehe can develope our own GPS software \:D/

actually, this is just a hobby, I do not do deep research in software, keep only incidental i need.
sometimes, when I like - could spend my time for weeks, but when busy or bored its not touched at all..

but to develop some navigation software, you must be deep in advanced logic such as mathematica, algebra,
advance calculation such fourier, laplacian, matrix etc. easy for isometric 2D but for mapping 3D using real renderingwith 3D programming (such as 3D openGL programming in PC),
and its very hard to develops just one person only.. even you r a genius one :ko:
maybe you r not enough have a Ph.D of mathematica to know all of that.. but must to do applicate software about special programming too :mrgreen:


mostly i ve hack the gps software using some machine code (assembler) that i knew..
any Ph.D here?



You are developing a Navigation "Application" Software ... not designing a GPS Chip :mrgreen:
Don't need a physicist or a PhD to do that :-'

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Re: if 1 is not enough

Postby Inggo » Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:47 pm

silverbeauty wrote:You are developing a Navigation "Application" Software ... not designing a GPS Chip :mrgreen:
Don't need a physicist or a PhD to do that :-'

yup not need ph.D, but you must capable in mathematic, cause too much Laplacian programming in 3D Map rendering
and using 3D matrix programming in navigation software development, and normalization formula in routing statistic methode, etc.

maybe you r remember the 3D old game such as "DOOM" in DOS envi from ID software
that similar with GPS 3D map enable, its programming with C and very much using Laplacian 3D matrix programming..
but navigation software is in embedded CE envi (on PND) or in Unix (Garmin Nuvi).. :wink:

i think the best sample 3D map is IGO..
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Re: if 1 is not enough

Postby keong8260 » Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:12 pm

Reverse engineer it... then we can develop our own "open source" MFM GPS!!! :prayer:

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Re: if 1 is not enough

Postby antyong (retired) » Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:14 am

Inggo wrote:
silverbeauty wrote:You are developing a Navigation "Application" Software ... not designing a GPS Chip :mrgreen:
Don't need a physicist or a PhD to do that :-'

yup not need ph.D, but you must capable in mathematic, cause too much Laplacian programming in 3D Map rendering
and using 3D matrix programming in navigation software development, and normalization formula in routing statistic methode, etc.

maybe you r remember the 3D old game such as "DOOM" in DOS envi from ID software
that similar with GPS 3D map enable, its programming with C and very much using Laplacian 3D matrix programming..
but navigation software is in embedded CE envi (on PND) or in Unix (Garmin Nuvi).. :wink:

i think the best sample 3D map is IGO..

If you look at Igo's credit, you will notice that Nav N Go merely license some of its software components. Most nav software license their TTS engine. If we can license a 3D graphical engine and the routing engine, the rest we can develop ourselves =P~

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Re: if 1 is not enough

Postby nizar9 » Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:16 pm

Hi Inggo and everyone,
I just bought my new Wayway Q5031 so that I can go back to wince but till now I failed despite multiple attempts. one of the suggestion from to edit the script. I need help, I tried but cant get it work. Few of the command lines I tried

Below is the my original Navi.ini setting

BITMAPBUTTON
x = 00
y = 240
Width = 166
Height = 32
Command = SDMMC/Apps/Restart.exe
BitmapNormal = ..Icons/Restart.bmp
BitmapPushed = ..Icons/Restart.bmp

I have tried the instruction to change the Restart to explorer.exe as below. I dont know what wrong with it. By now, I becoming more understood the script command which changes the restart button to exit to explorer.

Command = SDMMC/Apps/windows/explorer.exe - failed when I used SD card as my Apps
Command = /windows/explorer.exe - failed (after i installed Apps in my flash drive)


I have been thinking the reason may be due to no explorer.exe in the drive WindowsCE or whether because it is WindowCE embedded 6.0.
\Windows\ (in my TFAT) - sent your my print screen too.

Pls help me to solve this and if you would be able to share with me how to use GPS Launcher to enable me to use multiple GPS engines that will be great.
i appreciate your help a lot.
Thank you
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Re: if 1 is not enough

Postby keong8260 » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:09 pm

Bro nizar9, I think it is best for you to contact with the distributor. :)

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Re: if 1 is not enough

Postby Inggo » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:18 pm

nizar9 wrote:Hi Inggo and everyone,
I just bought my new Wayway Q5031 so that I can go back to wince but till now I failed despite multiple attempts. one of the suggestion from to edit the script. I need help, I tried but cant get it work. Few of the command lines I tried

Below is the my original Navi.ini setting

BITMAPBUTTON
x = 00
y = 240
Width = 166
Height = 32
Command = SDMMC/Apps/Restart.exe
BitmapNormal = ..Icons/Restart.bmp
BitmapPushed = ..Icons/Restart.bmp

I have tried the instruction to change the Restart to explorer.exe as below. I dont know what wrong with it. By now, I becoming more understood the script command which changes the restart button to exit to explorer.

Command = SDMMC/Apps/windows/explorer.exe - failed when I used SD card as my Apps
Command = /windows/explorer.exe - failed (after i installed Apps in my flash drive)

I have been thinking the reason may be due to no explorer.exe in the drive WindowsCE or whether because it is WindowCE embedded 6.0.
\Windows\ (in my TFAT) - sent your my print screen too.

Pls help me to solve this and if you would be able to share with me how to use GPS Launcher to enable me to use multiple GPS engines that will be great.
i appreciate your help a lot.
Thank you

Hello Nizar, nice to seen you have interest to 'Godek' your PND :lol:
that i've done before to make our self menu or whatever you love to do such as re programming our PND.. \:D/

cases like you mentioned, cause I do not understand your pics writings which in china language, but
I think there are 4 possible problems:
1. as well as you have changed the restart menu goes to Explorer, then some error happen - maybe its not enough memory to running explorer.exe that PND usually have only 64 mb is not enough to running many multiple task program (except you can some manoeuvered by determine call resident program block such as my speedometer program i did)
2. maybe correct as your thinking the reason of there is no Explorer.exe in your winCE embeded (any someone here help to translate from china language in pic attachment ?), since WinCE embeded envi was protected and cannot seeing in drive folder by partitioning embedded OS.
3. The error happen in 'Command = SDMMC/Apps/windows/explorer.exe - failed when you used SD card as Apps', its can happen if your explorer is 'not same version' in your embedded CE,
if your explorer.exe was CE version 5.x whereas your PND using winCE 6.x (unfortunately the explorer version 5 and 6 engine are not compatible and cannot change vice versa :thumbsdown: )
4. error happen in Command = /windows/explorer.exe - failed after you installed Apps in your flash drive
maybe its happen due to call different explorer.exe after you installed other programs of different language version from your china PND CE version to english application version.

Ok, hope its helps..
Goodluck.

note: since many user ask me about how to create the menu in CE, I plan to publish my speedometer program engine and plans to give away for free to mfm community :peace:
but the toolbar engine is not mine then i only give the tool for shareware, but don't worry i give you away the speedometer engine of my portion in full version :mrgreen:,
but the skin i must publish to be shareware.. no problem about it - since you can create your skin by your self :nutz:
The good news is - i give the skin menu editor in my speedo engine program :-$ that you can create the skin by your self :wink:
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Re: if 1 is not enough

Postby Inggo » Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:42 pm

silverbeauty wrote:You are developing a Navigation "Application" Software ... not designing a GPS Chip
Don't need a physicist or a PhD to do that

keong8260 wrote:Reverse engineer it... then we can develop our own "open source" MFM GPS!!! :prayer:

not as easy as speech...3D programming has its own difficulties.
as sample, i've program that was develop 100% with assembly language, it's only 46 Kilobytes!! (46,592 bytes).
it's combine of 3D graphic with music, develop with Direct3D & GDI api's,
native x86 mnemonic engine and gforce pseudo lang with emulate 3D openGL programming with reserve kinematic blow to sync with Music percussion and full fourier transform.. make my headache and
brain damage after that :ko: :mrgreen:

Ok, this program very-very small, only 46 kilobyte but you cannot reserve engineering my program (i guarantee that), can not reserve it to source because there is some encryption compression data soft sync music on it, make it to garbage source if reserved.

check this out:
Fractal027.zip

file name : Inggo Fractal-027.exe - Out of Blue
file size : 46,592 bytes only !!
content : 3D Demo with about 6 minutes 3D animation music! in 46 kilobyte file only !!!

note: i guarantee, this is not containt viruses cause this file surely only 46 kilobyte small,
cause develop with pseudo mnemonic x86 assembly language, but Try it LOUD..! (open your speaker to MAXimum level) then Trance!

This program occurs when make torus while learning how to make 3D programming, and some mistake the torus become into face :thumbsup:
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Re: if 1 is not enough

Postby Inggo » Mon Apr 26, 2010 2:19 pm

to heaven light
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