Custom POI Download - Police Speed Traps (V5.2)(120406)

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Re: Custom POI download - Police Speed Traps (v2)

Postby stratman2 » Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:26 pm

soulquarianz wrote:Hi Stratman, u know why i still have error whenever using your POI? my GMXT will crash specially in Putrajaya...

below are the errlog from my gmxt




Umm... brother Soulquarianz,


I think I've mentioned peculiar quirks about GMXTs before, but I don't mind writing this again. Sorry, this will be a rather long read. :)

My cPOIs are designed following standard Garmin techniques, i.e. GPX files generated by Garmin MapSource and POIs by Garmin POI loader. Of course, I could have used other third party software to construct the cPOIs but in the interest of ease of waypoint maintenance and updates, I chose not to.

The procedures that I followed from the various tutorials on the Internet are guaranteed to work on dedicated Garmin GPS models like Nuvis, Streetpilots and Zumos. None of the authors have tested them on Garmin Mobile XTs, which behave differently than non-PDA/smartphone based GPS units. The US and European maps that the writers used are most probably official Garmin compiled maps (whereas MFM uses CGS Mapper, if I'm not mistaken).

The very fact that GMXT devices are unable to play audio announcements is already an indication that GMXTs are not 100% compatible with features that Nuvi units can normally perform. :-#

That said, I have access to a Nuvi 310 and a 200W for testing purposes but I do not have any Symbian/PPC/Palm/WM/Linux based GPS devices to test. Memory access violations can be caused by external factors - it could be other memory resident apps in your PPC, it could be the your device OS' being unable to handle memory allocation errors (causing your PPC to crash), the GMXT software's limitations or even faulty physical RAM.

A POI is a POI, regardless of its coordinates and I am unable to explain why your unit crashes upon reaching the Putrajaya areas. (Does this happen elsewhere or only upon reaching the Putrajaya speed trap POIs?) If you search this entire forum, you will not find a single complaint from Nuvi users pertaining to their devices crashing from the use of custom POIs. :-?

Custom POIs are not programmable executable files or scripts - they are merely POIs with proximity distances, speed threshold and special icons which are handled by the Garmin GPS software. I would like to highlight again that GMXT is a software that is executed by a general purpose operating system, such as Symbian OS or Windows Mobile. [-X

The Garmin OS used in Nuvis and Zumos is a proprietary and embedded operating system that was designed to work perfectly with the Garmin's hardware. Nuvi models with MP3 playback capability can process true TourGuide files, in which the user is presented with an audio description of special points of interest, e.g. if you're within range of that POI, it will playback the audio file if he or she wants to (I believe a TourGuide icon pops out on the screen).

I don't know if TourGuide files can be played on GMXT units - if they cannot be recognized on GMXT, you don't know what you're missing! O:)

My personal advice to those who want a fully functional, in-car navigation GPS device: please buy a Nuvi! (It doesn't have to be a brand new one) for your vehicle. Use your GMXT enabled Nokia E71/Samsung Omnia/whatever for pedestrian or casual navigation instead.

I'll give you a simple analogy! :thumbsup:

If you have a cellphone with a built-in digital camera, ok, let's say a Sony Ericsson CyberShot phone - you can take acceptable general photos and that's about it. Good enough for quick-and-dirty snapshots, but hardly considered quality results by a discerning amateur photographer. (I can vouch for this - I have two Canon PowerShot consumer digicams, an S3-IS ultrazoom and an A620 compact and not even the Sony Ericsson CyberShot c905 can get close to the photo quality of either dedicated cameras).

Even with a 8.1 Megapixel camera onboard the c905 phone, I can guarantee you that the photos will not have the same fine resolution, sharpness and low digital noise of a dedicated camera, e.g. an older Sony CyberShot digicam even with only 5 Megapixels. Sony Ericsson is not dumb - they would never make a cellphone with a camera that will rival their own Sony CyberShot digicams! You also won't get the same photography features (e.g. ISO override, manual mode, aperture priority, shutter priority, depth-of-field, etc) from a cellphone camera that a dedicated camera can offer.

Just to illustrate, I recently purchased a Sony Ericsson G705 phone as I needed WiFi, HSDPA broadband access. Oh, it's got a built-in GPS antenna too and runs Google Maps/Google Earth. There's a trial-ware Wayfinder mapping software embedded in the phone that has turn-by-turn voice prompts but I never bothered to use it. Why? It's nowhere as good as my Nuvi 310 with MFM in it.

And the phone's GPS is nowhere as sensitive or accurate as my Nuvi 310. At best, I could get my location within 30 meters (occasionally) with the G705, but I have experienced satellite fixes as accurate as 3 meters with the Nuvi. That's a 10:1 accuracy advantage the Nuvi has over my SE cellphone.

The moral of the story: you can't have your cake and it eat too. :prayer:

GMXT based devices are indeed handy, they are multi-functional, you can make phone calls with them, you can run spreadsheets and surf the web with them, you can easily slip them in your pants pocket. But when it comes to serious in-vehicle, GPS use, one shouldn't expect GMXTs to perform exactly what a Nuvi can do.

Even then, the Nuvi has its limitations and shortcomings. Most models cannot perform track logging. Those that do, won't do super-accurate 1Hz track logging and are not suitable for outdoor use for hiking and trekking. :oops:

That's when the Garmin eTrex models for example, come into the picture. They are also meant to be hand-held, weather and shock resistant for use rough use in the outdoors. Some models also have electronic compass, altimeter and barometer features - and a few are equipped with GMRS walkie talkie functions.

On the other hand, the eTrex units are not ideal models for in-car GPS navigation like the Nuvis are! :peace:
cheers,

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Re: Custom POI download - Police Speed Traps (v2)

Postby soulquarianz » Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:36 pm

thanks for the info bro, really appreciate it. yes it seems that my gmxt crash in putrajaya only not other places. i dont know why. i travel a lot but whenever i'm in putrajaya its always crash.

anyway i'm indeed purchasing a nuvi soon, maybe a basic nuvi 200.

anyway your other POI works just fine. the sharp bend etc is helpfull whenever i'm going to rural areas....
Kaiser with GMXT

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Re: Custom POI download - Police Speed Traps (v2)

Postby stratman2 » Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:33 pm

soulquarianz wrote:thanks for the info bro, really appreciate it. yes it seems that my gmxt crash in putrajaya only not other places. i dont know why. i travel a lot but whenever i'm in putrajaya its always crash.

anyway i'm indeed purchasing a nuvi soon, maybe a basic nuvi 200.

anyway your other POI works just fine. the sharp bend etc is helpfull whenever i'm going to rural areas....



Sorry, I didn't intend my reply to be as a sermon or khutbah brother soulquarianz. :prayer: I wasn't singling you out but I hoped others who use GMXT devices will also understand why they're not benefitting custom POIs like the rest of their Nuvi owning brothers and sisters are, or experiencing crash issues that is outside my control. :zzz:


P.S. I read that the new 265 series with the latest MTK GPS chipset lock on to satellites faster than the older SiRF III based chipsets. They have an autonomous smart feature called Hotfix to predict the locations of the orbital GPS'es overhead. If you're in the market for a brand new Nuvi, you might want to consider the new models instead of the 200. =P~

It's sort of like the aGPS (assisted GPS) feature used in the latest GPS-enabled phones, where the telco cell antennas have known fixed coordinates and they would use their locations to get a faster, rough triangulation on my present location. It takes 2 to 3 minutes for my SE G705 to get a satisfactory fix on satellites (unassisted), but with the aGPS turned on I can get a fix within 100m in 40 seconds or so.

Of course, 3G or GPRS data charges apply when the aGPS feature is used. :$gone: :$gone: :$gone: (Now you know why prefer I rely on my Nuvi more than my phone's GPS).
cheers,

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Re: Custom POI download - Police Speed Traps (v2)

Postby FauSham » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:44 pm

stratman2 wrote:
FauSham wrote:Stratman,

1.In School alert: Can u change "School zone comming up ahead" with "Dong,dong.... warning school zone area."



Err...bro FauSham, do you mean you literally want that lady to say "Dong, dong"? :mrgreen: It can be done easily, hehe... :D


:lol: Nooo laaahh.... just dong dong alert sound in device.
Y I wan u to change becoz, when that lady say "School zone coming up ahead".... look so pelaatt...
Please change to alert[Dong,dong].... warning, school zone area approaching.....

...and if you don mind to add alert sound before every word "warning"
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Re: Custom POI download - Police Speed Traps (v2)

Postby stratman2 » Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:37 pm

FauSham wrote:
stratman2 wrote:
FauSham wrote:Stratman,

1.In School alert: Can u change "School zone comming up ahead" with "Dong,dong.... warning school zone area."



Err...bro FauSham, do you mean you literally want that lady to say "Dong, dong"? :mrgreen: It can be done easily, hehe... :D


:lol: Nooo laaahh.... just dong dong alert sound in device.
Y I wan u to change becoz, when that lady say "School zone coming up ahead".... look so pelaatt...
Please change to alert[Dong,dong].... warning, school zone area approaching.....

...and if you don mind to add alert sound before every word "warning"



Erk!! A school zone can approach you ka? lol... :evil:

What's the GPS model you're using, btw?
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Re: Custom POI download - Police Speed Traps (v2)

Postby FauSham » Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:01 pm

stratman2 wrote:Erk!! A school zone can approach you ka? lol... :evil:
:lol: yeaa... becoz.... when she said "....coming up ahead." but it's not really ahead... it's behind :D

What's the GPS model you're using, btw?
760 and 265w


My 2 suggestion:
alert[Dong,dong].... warning, school zone area approaching.....
or
alert[Dong,dong].... warning, you have entering school zone area.....

:thumbsup:
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Re: Custom POI download - Police Speed Traps (v2)

Postby stratman2 » Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:07 pm

FauSham wrote:My 2 suggestion:
alert[Dong,dong].... warning, school zone area approaching.....
or
alert[Dong,dong].... warning, you have entering school zone area.....

:thumbsup:



Hmmm.... actually, I discovered that even after I've passed trigger waypoints, (like red light cameras) my Nuvi 310 still announces the alert. It could be attributed to the bi-directional nature of custom POIs.

OK, I'll take up your suggestion for my next release.. "entering school zone area" would be the better choice. O:)

Eh, I thought that Nuvis should play the "dong dong" sound by default? :-k
cheers,

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Re: Custom POI download - Police Speed Traps (v2)

Postby miketlwong » Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:24 pm

Here are some of the police road block cPOI in Penang island.

cPOI police road block Penang.gdb
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Re: Custom POI download - Police Speed Traps (v2)

Postby snipewarex » Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:13 pm

How come some road in Butterworth and Penang Island the alert not trigger for the speed alert where before I forgot which version got ding dong sound and also some got voice announcement, or is it because of the map? I will try with lite version to test it this weekend....hope some feedback for this will be appreciate...

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Re: Custom POI download - Police Speed Traps (v2)

Postby jwschow » Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:02 am

my feedback on the Kerinchi Link speed trap...the speed trap is (i believe) for traffic from Mont Kiara, Hartamas,etc. towards PJ, Bangsar, etc...however as i was driving on the Sprint from TTDI heading towards KL, i got a 80km speed trap warning
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